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  • A video of Twitter CEO Elon Musk purportedly firing former platform legal affairs and policy chief, Vijaya Gadde, on American commentator Joe Rogan's podcast is being shared on social media to claim that Musk fired her on air after taking over the microblogging platform. In the clip, Gadde can be heard talking about failing "in a couple of ways," to which Musk responds, "Failure has a big penalty, you're fired." (Archives of more claims can be seen here and here.) However, we found that the video has been edited. Gadde and Musk haven't appeared on Rogan's podcast together. The clips are from two different videos from Rogan's verified YouTube channel, PowerfulJRE, and the audio of Musk talking about the penalty for failure is taken from a United States Air Force (USAF) Air Warfare Symposium, where he was talking about his company, Space X. WHAT WE FOUND OUT We looked for videos of the duo on Rogan's verified YouTube channel and didn't find any episode where the two have appeared together. Moreover the two haven't been guests on the podcast for at least the last two years. VIDEO 1: VIJAYA GADDE We found one video with Gadde, one of Twitter's founders Jack Dorsey, and YouTuber and journalist Tim Pool. This video was streamed live on 6 March 2019, whereas Musk officially took over Twitter on 27 October. We compared the screenshots from both videos and saw that this viral clip was taken from this episode of the podcast. 26 minutes and 31 seconds into this video, we found Gadde's statement about Twitter having failed in a couple of ways and wanting to admit that. However, she made this statement while answering a question about Twitter's policies of suspending accounts and taking down tweets that violated the platform's community guidelines. VIDEO 2: ELON MUSK Elon Musk has made two appearances on Joe Rogan's podcast. The first time was on 7 September 2018, while the second one was on 7 May 2020. Here, we saw that the visuals in the viral claim were taken from Musk's first appearance on the podcast in 2018, as a comparison of screenshots from both videos showed him in the same T-shirt. We went through both these podcasts, but did not find Musk making any such statement as heard in the viral clip. WHERE IS MUSK'S AUDIO FROM? Using the advanced keyword search on Google, we came across an article dated 29 February 2020 on InShorts, a news aggregator. It said that Elon Musk had spoken about failure to innovate at his space exploration company Space X, at a United States Air Force Air Warfare Symposium in 2020. Taking a cue from this, we looked for a video and came across his full interview on the US military's media hosting website DVIDS Hub. On going through the video we found that around 52 minutes and 40 seconds into the interview, he makes the same remark as heard in the viral clip. Here, Musk is heard speaking about the work culture at SpaceX and saying, "Failure to try to innovate at all, comes with a big penalty. You'll be fired." This statement was altered and edited to make it seem like Musk had spoken to Gadde about being fired as a penalty for making mistakes. Evidently, two old, separate videos from Joe Rogan's podcast – and audio of Musk speaking in an unrelated interview – were edited together to claim that he had fired ex-Twitter executive Vijaya Gadde on air after taking over the company. (Not convinced of a post or information you came across online and want it verified? Send us the details on , or e-mail it to us at and we'll fact-check it for you. You can also read all our fact-checked stories .) (At The Quint, we question everything. Play an active role in shaping our journalism by becoming a member today.)
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